i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .
why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?
how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?
I think sending letters to the BOE is a waste of time, especially now in 2015.
ANYTHING that says "I don't want...." is, and can be construed as, "Pull the bar down, drop 'em" (Like when the floor opens, and you drop, haha) This borganization has become like a heartless machine. Elders go to elders school to learn "rules."
I simply don't go to meetings, and my mom treats me in a self righteous business type of way. "Yes, any thing else?" as if she has only met me a few days ago.
it's 1:30 am and i'm wide awake again as usual.
i was doing a little bible reading yesterday and.
came across luke 11:29 where jesus states " when the crowds were increasing, he began to say,.
Like all 'leaving' JW's, I made sure of my 'facts', and looked up ALL cases of "generation" in the entire Bible..... every single one of them.... did all the math.......
40...Let's spell it everyone... F...O...R...T... Y..
im going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..
he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..
the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.
cognac: They do not "say it".... but all the cases I have read about child abuse, people are treated as IF they are DF'd, because they "are bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name."... they have brought shame to the congregation...
Not written, but you can hear the same phrases uttered everywhere.... Phrases are repeated in WT's, asked like a question instead of a demand, "Would WE want to bring reproach on Jehovah's organization? No, we love Jehovah"
People who testified, telling the truth at trials. were DF'd at the end of the trial. Not until the end... o/w the WT lawyers could be accused of messing with the trial, after all, the WT lawyers ARE part of "Jehovah's LOVING worldwide organization" and if anything is wrong with it "Jehovah can read their hearts" and "Jehovah will straighten it out in his own due time." I heard, and still do hear these phrases over an over.
People who tell the truth, and testify in trials are charged with "speaking abusively of the glorious ones," or "brazen" in their conduct, and DF'd. Barbara Anderson was DF'd right before she went on TV..... Why? all because she told the truth!
im going by memory, so not an exact quote...i believe this was around 2002, at the crownsville assembly hall (now sold from what i understand)..
he said basically: some people watch an hour show and give up the faith that theyve had for decades..
the impact of this show was like a canon being shot into a swimming pool.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs.
the report about child abuse and jehovah's witnesses is now live.. jehovah's witnesses handle child abuse cases.
jehovah's witnesses and child sexual abuse, the report - bbc radio 4 .
it's getting to the point where cnn should start announcing "breaking news" if there *hasn't* been a mass shooting !.
it's crazy.. i was watching the 70's documentary they are running and that's the point when media hype about mass serial killers seemed to begin the danger-gun-solution hype cycle.
sure, people had guns before then but nowhere near like it is now.. when will it end?
Personally, I have often pondered what Simon and VillageIdiot expressed above.
Sometimes I think that all the details that are given to crimes (though, I would not like to fall victim to the ones that trick you, and want to be aware) give ideas to people. People who may be likely to do something anyway.... but get bigger and better ideas thru the news media.
the talk was bs.speaker used an example of how god provides some 60 pounds of fish per week to some bird.in that case god does not care about the life of fish.who will provide my daily rations?
can i go to a store and take my food?
can i rely on god in my old age (does not the wbts give the boot to co over 70).
Exactly, bobld! The WT takes an illustration, splits it, spins it, twists it, and asks, "and don't we all love that?" .... waiting for the applause.
That is why it is so frustrating. No real thinking allowed.
Soylent Green, describes this type of 'oligarchy' (rule by a few) where the old and homeless are ground up for food..... and become the 'soylent green' to nurish the rest.
So too the WT... While the R&F give their lives to the 'greater good', the WTBTS and the seven men in NY, live in a world that has no regard for the rest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs.
to be broadcast at 20.00 hrs british summer time this thursday, available on bbc i-player shortly after broadcast..
I liked the part where Wendy (the married woman who was raped) replied back to the elders, 'yes, there WERE two witnesses to this man's sexual abuse'
The elders, however, maintained that "No, since one person was a minor, and one was an adult, it doesn't count" OMG!
Both of the women who commented were very rational and believable. Also, it shows that even the father (who at first just didn't LIKE what had happened, but stayed with the witnesses) could eventually leave when he saw the discord & disharmony, and the lack of love.
After all, isn't that what this organization is suppose to be all about?
all i want from this life is to be able to wash windows at bethel.. my story.. when i was fresh out of high school and pioneering, i said those exact words to my friends and family.
all i wanted to do was be at the core of the organization where it was the safest.
i gleefully told people that i'd gladly spend the rest of my life washing windows, waiting tables, doing laundry or cleaning bathrooms.
Awesome Mr & Mrs Bonsai! My husband and I join you in your toast to "no hypocrisy"!
Thank you so much for explaining the process of your awakening, with the details of how things made you feel. I am GLAD that you could see that just plain love (for the elder who died) is turned into something to make people feel bad. How sad! Shame on them!
It is heartening to hear that other people will not put up with this oppression! Good for you! Good for your wife! and good for all of us who have truly seen "the truth" about "the truth"!
Cheers!
i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
